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Sum up your former/current fandoms in a few sentences, as if they were human beings/very convincing sockpuppets on your flist. Ask your friends to guess which fandoms you're talking about!



May I introduce the following animes, books, and mangas:

1. There were countless references, endless rides, comical elements and serious issues. Sometimes brilliant, sometimes on the edge of pain. Your violet sparkles, golden light, and green eyes caught me.
[Adventures of the Galaxy Rangers, guessed correctly by [livejournal.com profile] elbales]

2. Nobody believed in you. There were four attempts before the fifth turned out working, and even that was a haphazard chaos, few people put faith in. Yet it worked out, in the past and the future and even in the darkness of a new middle ages.
[Babylon-5, not guessed]

3. Spaceships on the surface, a war against the gods on a planet not fully terraformed yet. You are a beautifully drawn movie, but still I always believed your story to be more complicated than could be told in your roughly two hours.
[Big Wars, not guessed]

4. When I discovered that you are based on novels written in the 1940s I was thrilled. But before I even read them, I played in my mind with your drop-formed ship.
[Captain Future by Edmond Hamilton, not guessed]

5. I just discovered you, after I fell in love with your arch enemy a few weeks ago. Your name means nothing, but you are anything but. In fact, you kind of remind me of the hero in 4. :)
[Cosmowarrior Zero by Leiji Matsumoto, not guessed]

6. You are feckless and powerful, strong and confused; a knight in shining armor, who scrapes his knee on the parapet of a crumbling wooden fortress with an owl to lead him through the shadows into the arms of one soon to be king.
[Fortress in the Eye of Time by C. J. Cherryh, guessed correctly by [livejournal.com profile] elbales]

7. You are tough, smart, and deadly - and despite you telling your own tale, I'm sticking around waiting eagerly for the next natural death.
[John Rain the assassin created by Barry Eisler, not guessed]

8. Kill the frogs! And then fall back to earth, Commander! 264 is waiting for your astrogator.
[Raumpatrouille, guessed correctly by [livejournal.com profile] rheasilvia]

9. You leave none of your characters truly unharmed, though your creators proclaimed never to do a resurrection, at least one of your (minor) characters came back from destruction.
[X, guessed correctly by [livejournal.com profile] solo____]

10. You carry the X and the pentagram. Sakura petals flutter like snow flakes through your blood tinted pictures. Your men are dead, guilt-ridden, powerful, mysterious and/or perverted.
[Yami no Matsuei or Descendants of Darkness, guessed correctly by [livejournal.com profile] jjblue1]

11. Your dead sidhe prince changed forever my perception of what elves (and sidhe) are supposed to be. I never wrote fanfic about you, but there are two pastel chalk pictures and an original shortstory of mine, clearly being inspired by you.
[The Dreaming Tree by C. J. Cherryh, guessed correctly by [livejournal.com profile] elbales]


And? Any idea who they are? :)

Date: 2006-11-21 15:54 (UTC)From: [identity profile] jjblue1.livejournal.com
^_^
And the anime has truly some great suggestive scenes... and a lovely music background!

Date: 2006-11-21 23:12 (UTC)From: [identity profile] jjblue1.livejournal.com
The anime chara is cool and fit well to the series (the manga drawing style went under so many changes... *sighs*).
I also liked how some colouring just... stood out... characters' eyes seems to shine and there's a lovely match of brightness and darkness... and in some others there's just a colour that stood out and catch your attention with its brightness and some scenes are rather poetic, almost dreamy while some others are... creepy...
Muraki's scenes expecially.
When he liked Hisoka's fingers he gave me the chills... and in the anime they managed to add many little details that made him even more of a pervert than he is... (if that's possible)...
However I've to say I disliked most of the changes between the manga plot and the anime plot... but I guess one can't get everything... :P

Date: 2006-11-29 16:58 (UTC)From: [identity profile] jjblue1.livejournal.com
It's okay... as you can see i'm not the faster of the repliers either... :P
Work...
I so wish Matsushita Sensei would consider continuing the series...
If she did maybe they would consider continuing the anime... or maybe make a movie...
I would so love to see an anime version of Touda...
The anime adaptation wasn't bad... YnM had been, after all, a lucky series... in a fashion X was less lucky... (wt least for what regards Subaru and Seishiro... so many scenes cut!)

Damn, I hadn't guessed Captain Future... but it's really ages fromt eh last time I saw it...

Date: 2006-11-29 23:32 (UTC)From: [identity profile] jjblue1.livejournal.com
The Oriya/Ukyo ones?
*sighs* I saw them but I can't say I'm fond of them...
The only thing that pleases me is that Ukyo is exactly as I pictured her to be! (apart from the haircut...)

I guess they wanted to cut yaoi references as much as possible... (in a fashion even Fuma/Kamui moments are less... there's angel Kotori around... and dark Fuma is purely an evil Fuma) and to give Kamui more space... (*sighs* the other chara doesn't even figure up in the opening or in the ending... I don't see a reason for this since showing them would hardly considered as a spoiler considering all the time X had been running around... if you ask me I favour the videogame's opening...)

Date: 2006-12-02 02:12 (UTC)From: [identity profile] jjblue1.livejournal.com
Sorry for the late reply... work is eating away my private life...

Ukyo should be a charmer since she managed to get both Oriya and Muraki to love her... only she doesn't look like one... but maybe it was their first crush when they were teen...

Oh well...

LOL SoRyu's bad hair day! Sound like fun!

My history with TB/X began with the X manga which I loved... and that was interrupted at vol. 10. Then I saw the movie. Then my liking for X started to cool down. When later I read TB X had already spoiled me the ending so, at first, I wasn't so intrigued because I knew it was going to end badly... even if I thought it would have been worse than what it actually was. Then it was printed a new edition of X that mercifully included the missing volumes...
I admit I was cold to that too at the beginning because well, I knew half of it already... and all that waiting had ruined my enthusiasm for it. Then we reached the volumes I hadn't read yet... and it began to intrigue me again... and I litterally worshipped vol 16...
In the end I saw the TB OAV and the X anime subbed version. After I bought the X OAV and the X anime italian version... (which is scary because the voice and the adaptations are horrible... not mentioning the fact that the guy who did the character profiles had no idea of who the characters were... when I read Subaru, Hokuto and Seishiro's ones I felt tempted to cry...)

Yes, the canon isn't really respected in the assorted versions. To help myself I take notes... for Yami I've made an 'encyclopaedia' and a timeline... for TB/X... I've an approssimative timeline... sadly CLAMP didn't really gave us dates...
and the one they gave don't really make much sense (why Fuma waits 3 months before attacking? especially considering Seishiro had already began breaking a Kekkai before Kamui awoke... and I won't go into the TB timeline...)
I wrote down the list of all the characters with some short description and the translitteration I chose to use (so many translitterations... I so hate this) and a list of all the places mentioned in TB/X plus description and location (which I still have to end but that's fairly complete...)

Don't worry about the canons. It's nothing big.
Some info are from really hard to find sources and some others are most things CLAMP implied but never stated clearly so you can work around it. Or things that were never stated in the manga but that you can assume were as you wrote.
And in some points you used fancanon without saying it was fancanon.
Mind you there's nothing wrong in using fancanon... on the contrary I'm all for it... however since many people I know assume fancanon is canon and write about it in their webs I tend to label it as canon imprecision in reviews...
I'm VERY annoying over this, I know... but I've been bugged a tad too much by people who reproached me for not respecting what they called 'canon' and that was only 'fancanon' instead (and a fancanon that didn't respect canon!) and so I've grown wary of it.

Date: 2006-12-02 02:14 (UTC)From: [identity profile] jjblue1.livejournal.com
As for all I found:

Seishiro's talking Sakura in Ueno is fancanon. According to Hokuto the Sakurazukamori only kills in order to protect Japan not to feed a tree so Subaru should know this. TB 1999 drama cd and the episode 'Save' seems to confirm it. Mn... you probably know this already...
The marks on Subaru's hands disappeared after he accepted Seishiro's eye (at least it's implied Subaru doesn't have them anymore when Nataku dies...)
Fancanon assumes Subaru's marks hurt. In TB/X is never said/implied (thouggh I would think they did, at least in the beginning when they bleed... Subaru however looks very stoic about them... but it might be he was in shock or something close). You can however assume they did.
According to a now long closed web CLAMP declared Nokoru's birthday is 16/June/1980. Sadly I hadn't been capable to find where CLAMP declared it... however even if the year might not be right I find it's likely going to be a right enough approssimation. According to it Nokoru would be 12 in 1992 and the CLAMP Gakuen trilogy (20 Mensho, Duklyon, CLAMP detective) was printed in 1989/93. Usually manga are placed in the year in which they're printed or around the year in which they're printed (unless the manga needs differently... see 'X' [also TB who had been printed in 4 years but tecnically should contain only a year of story and a bit... plus a flash on Subaru's future]). This date also imply that either 20 menshou is in an alternate dimension or the world is going to be saved since Akira married at 22...
Imonoyama Tsuzuku, one of Nokoru's older brothers (he's 8 years older than Nokoru) was a CLAMP Gakuen student in his elementary years and so Sasaki Keiji. Since CLAMP Gakuen is a rather big complex I do think it took some years to be built so it had to be ready before Nokoru's birth or at least before he could go to kindergarten.
While CLAMP never said Seishiro didn't go to CLAMP Gakuen Seishiro's uniform is definitely not CLAMP Gakuen one in the sidestory in which he kills his mother or in the one in which he met Subaru. CLAMP uniform is buttonless and the pin indicating the students' class is different. Since CLAMP Gakuen didn't require the use of the uniform Seishiro might have adopted another (Kobayashi Ryusuke [and also some Hagunsei Senki chara if I'm not wrong] wore a slightly different version of the uniform with longer jacket) however such a different uniform would make him stand out while at school and, at least in other schools, it's considered a sign of rebellion. If he's wearing it to not be recognized as a CLAMP student... well, Subaru should have noticed not only the pin but also the uniform. Also CLAMP gakuen already have a special class... it's class Z that's why you see a Z on the pins. It collects the best students no matter their economical situation (in 'CLAMP Gakuen Kaikigenshou Kenkyuukai Jiken Files' you can see that students from other classes have different letters on the pin). The I on Seishiro's pin likely mean he's in a school that calls classes using roman numbers like Saiki, one of Shidou Hikaru's brother (a 'Rayearth' chara) or Mihara Ojiro's (an 'Angelic Layer' chara whose unifrm looks very close to Seishiro's one) one.
I re-read CLAMP Gakuen Tantei-dan but I couldn't find a vice-headmistress, just the Rijichou and founder, Imonoyama Rarisa. Also, according to 'X' she altered the CLAMP Gakuen to look as it is in the manga after talking with Kamui's mother. Since the CLAMP Gakuen is shielded with various techniques the Sumeragi might have had a hand in it but so should have other experts because, according to TB it's forbidden to use different types of magics... (which make me think Seishiro bent rules when he used rune magic... or is it part of Onmyoudo? I couldn't find this info...) Nokoru inherited the place of Rijichou from Rarisa.
Also... according to the Italian translation when Subaru met Seishiro the first time Subaru's grandmother was at the Kunaicho (in Chiyoda-ku, Marunouchi). CLAMP Gakuen is approssimatively in Minato-ku, Odaiba... quite far from it...

Date: 2006-12-02 02:15 (UTC)From: [identity profile] jjblue1.livejournal.com
It's unsure if Seishiro went to live with his mother after he met her at 9. During the conversation they have in the drama cd he's in Junior High and it's said he's visiting her, apparently implying he didn't live with her.
According to Nokoru CLAMP Gakuen temperature is controlled by air conditioners only, not by the Campus magic which should be only working as seal to protect the Shinken. However I think you can stretch it and use it to keep the plants green as well.
Subaru also saw Seishiro's Shiki in TB but he might not have ever connected the Shiki he met inside Mizuki to Seishiro... and he might have forgot/be too out of it to remember Seishiro's Shiki fought with his grandmother's one...
Also it isn't sure if Subaru followed Seishiro's power when they first met. The translation said he felt being called, found a tree that harbored the grudges and the hatred of many. Later when Subaru's grandmother will reach him the sakura will disappear in a flutter of petals as Seishiro's illusions usually do. Anyway Subaru sensed a call but it's never said it was a call of power. It might be he sensed the hatred. As for from who the hatred came... that's unsaid. However since Seishiro had killed a girl and Seishiro kills who threat Japan's well being it might be that the apparently harmless little girl was a murderer like the girls in 'Call' and that the hatred was caused by her (I would assume Seishiro would shield from hatred from his victims because it can have negative consequences...) However you can assume he sensed the Sakurazukamori's power. I know I did in a fic.

On a sidenote: for the Subaru and Seishiro's Shikigami thing... it's not canonically stated however it might be that the birds Subaru and Seishiro create with Ofuda aren't Shiki in the real sense of the world.
I've been making researches about them... there are no clear info however the definition of Shikigami seems to fit more to the bird Subaru used in 'call' (and that, with the use of an Ofuda, divided into 3 birds) and Seishiro's hawk. 'Yami no Matsuei' calls the creatures made with Ofuda Tsukaima (=usable magic).
Shikigami should be more powerful than Tsukaima...
And no, this isn't an error you made... and not even a secure canon information... sadly I don't know enough about Onmyoudo to be sure of the overmentioned info...

According to the translation I found 'Nandaro' is the nickname CLAMP used among them for Seishiro's shiki not its name...
'"Place and date of birth of Sumeragi Subaru." He caught Subaru's wrist in a hard grip. "The real ones, not the fakes you gave me at Sunshine 60.' Actually Subaru only gave a fake birthplace. The use of plural should imply he gave both them fake... or it's my lack of English knowledge that's making me see a mistake where there's none? The birthdate was real... and according to Yuko (from xxx HoLic) giving it Subaru gave to Seishiro the right to control his life...
According to TB 1999 the movie Hokuto's spirit is still a ghost capable to possess other people... however I can't understand the Japanese dialogues so I don't know much about it and some do not consider TB 1999 as part of the TB/X continuity.
By the end of X Subaru's hair is almost the same lenght it was on TB... so they arent' that short anymore...

Date: 2006-12-02 02:15 (UTC)From: [identity profile] jjblue1.livejournal.com
I don't know if this is wanted but I'm not sure Nokoru's name can be shortened in ''koru'... I've read an article about how Japanese shortened names that seemed to imply that they cut the ending and not the beginning... however I know some rare case of names from which the beginning was cut... so, unless you already did it, I suggest to check this one with someone with Japanese knowledge...
Not really an error but I do wonder how Suoh discovered the Sakurazukamori chased his prey for a year but not who the prey was. The only ones who knew were Seishiro, Subaru, Subaru's grandmother and maybe someone in the Sumeragi's family. Somehow it seems difficult they mentioned it to the Takamura's family... Suoh was informed by Hinoto or someone whom, like her, can know things through dreams, magic and such?
Fancanon assumes that the Sakurazukamori's victims are buried under the tree, ergo Hokuto's body had never been found... however Subaru's grandmother received a call informing her of her demise. Unless it was Seishiro that likely means someone found secure proof she died. Plus in TB and X we never see Seishiro buring bodies but discharging them where they are carelessly. Ergo Hokuto shouldn't have been considered missing...
The final battle (or at least the battle presented in what will be Vol. 19) didn't take place on Tokyo Tower. To my shame I admit I hadn't managed to recognize the place however you can see Kamui looking at Tokyo Tower that looks quite distant from where he and Fuma are...

Just wondering... the two dragons are inspired by the X movie?

BTW, according to my researches it's Subaru's house is in 'Kinki-chiho - Kyoto-fu - Kyoto-shi - Ukyo-ku - Sagano'.
CLAMP Gakuen have a whole hospital placed near it's center... so I think it's more likely the university would have an infirmary.
CLAMP didn't state where Togakushi Jinja is... however when Yuto left it to go to Shinjuku he used the Yamanote-sen and called Kanoe from Ikebukuro-eki which I assume was the closest station to where he was. Yamanote-sen have no stations in Edogawa... and I think if he was to take another line he would have said...
I don't know if Fuma, being a minor, can be Kamui's guardian... I couldn't find any info about it, sorry...

And I would love if you were to friend me but I warn you... on my journal there's nothing too interesting and it's often written in poor English...
Can I friend you as well?
And my apologies for such a long reply...

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Date: 2006-12-02 20:11 (UTC)From: [identity profile] jjblue1.livejournal.com
1. yes, I remember. I thought to mention it anyway because it gave troubles to me too... so I try to spread his birthday's date info as much as I can (*sighs* in a fic I've assumed Subaru and Akira had the same age... I should have really know better...)

2. Sometimes I so wish I could read TB in Japanese and not rely on translations...

3. oh, okay.

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Date: 2007-03-29 01:08 (UTC)From: [identity profile] jjblue1.livejournal.com
2. You've probably forgot about this but... I've finally had the chance to check with the Japanese version and yes, she was at Kunaicho (宮内庁): "Imperial Household Agency"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Household_Agency

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Date: 2006-12-02 21:00 (UTC)From: [identity profile] jjblue1.livejournal.com
I'll pay to get a comprensive text explaining how Onmyoudo work in TB...

S&S said using other types of magic is taboo and that Subaru, or a professional, wouldn't do it (Seishiro however didn't say if he would do it or not... and I think that, should it be useful to him, Seishiro would happily step over Onmyoudo's rules...)

I can't remember in which type of magic runes are used (in the past I did researches of magic types but I admit I can't remember them right now) but from your note I got the impression they were from German magic (it might be just me... I'll pay to be better at English...) so likely out from Onmyoudo magic...

Onmyoudo's rules seem rather complex... Subaru can't even have his future predicted... however his grandmother had a vision over him... (another thing I'd like to know was how the Kakai works... I couldn't find it in all the net... maybe Subaru's grandmother's vision was incidental and not done by purpose so she didn't break rules... or maybe it's okay to see the future of an Onmyouji if he's a family member... but then I wonder... Hinoto and Kakyou were also forbidden to see Subaru and Seishiro's future or they were powerful enough to bent rules?... sorry, I'm rambling, I'll quit...)

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Date: 2006-12-02 21:01 (UTC)From: [identity profile] jjblue1.livejournal.com
Sorry, incidentally I pushed the send button before ending what I've to say...

Oh, more on the spirit? Now you're making me really curious...

Date: 2006-12-02 20:05 (UTC)From: [identity profile] jjblue1.livejournal.com
You're right you did mention the vocal tree at the beginning... but I thought the warning was due to the fact the tree talk not to the tree itself... sorry, my bad.

I'm sorry for calling fancanon your interpretation.
It's just it match with fancanon... which after all was born from some fans' interpretation.
I'm happy to hear you didn't base your fic on fancanon. If there's a thing I admire in your work and that always leave me impressed is the deep researches you made for this fic.

*sighs* I know the drama of not having the chance to use all the sources of info because... some are just too hard to get for not-Japanese speakers who doesn't even live in Japan (I'd love to know what was the first TB story's plot or what the dialogue in the movie or in the Hokuto drama cd, or in the altered part of the other drama cd were... or maybe read the YnM books...).

As I told you the canon imprecisions you made aren't a big deal. Most people wouldn't even notice them.

^____^
Thank you for allowing me to friend you!

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