The "Little Black Book of Fandoms" Meme

[akk]

spotted on rheasilvias journal...

Sum up your former/current fandoms in a few sentences, as if they were human beings/very convincing sockpuppets on your flist. Ask your friends to guess which fandoms you're talking about!



May I introduce the following animes, books, and mangas:

1. There were countless references, endless rides, comical elements and serious issues. Sometimes brilliant, sometimes on the edge of pain. Your violet sparkles, golden light, and green eyes caught me.
[Adventures of the Galaxy Rangers, guessed correctly by elbales]

2. Nobody believed in you. There were four attempts before the fifth turned out working, and even that was a haphazard chaos, few people put faith in. Yet it worked out, in the past and the future and even in the darkness of a new middle ages.
[Babylon-5, not guessed]

3. Spaceships on the surface, a war against the gods on a planet not fully terraformed yet. You are a beautifully drawn movie, but still I always believed your story to be more complicated than could be told in your roughly two hours.
[Big Wars, not guessed]

4. When I discovered that you are based on novels written in the 1940s I was thrilled. But before I even read them, I played in my mind with your drop-formed ship.
[Captain Future by Edmond Hamilton, not guessed]

5. I just discovered you, after I fell in love with your arch enemy a few weeks ago. Your name means nothing, but you are anything but. In fact, you kind of remind me of the hero in 4. :)
[Cosmowarrior Zero by Leiji Matsumoto, not guessed]

6. You are feckless and powerful, strong and confused; a knight in shining armor, who scrapes his knee on the parapet of a crumbling wooden fortress with an owl to lead him through the shadows into the arms of one soon to be king.
[Fortress in the Eye of Time by C. J. Cherryh, guessed correctly by elbales]

7. You are tough, smart, and deadly - and despite you telling your own tale, I'm sticking around waiting eagerly for the next natural death.
[John Rain the assassin created by Barry Eisler, not guessed]

8. Kill the frogs! And then fall back to earth, Commander! 264 is waiting for your astrogator.
[Raumpatrouille, guessed correctly by rheasilvia]

9. You leave none of your characters truly unharmed, though your creators proclaimed never to do a resurrection, at least one of your (minor) characters came back from destruction.
[X, guessed correctly by solo____]

10. You carry the X and the pentagram. Sakura petals flutter like snow flakes through your blood tinted pictures. Your men are dead, guilt-ridden, powerful, mysterious and/or perverted.
[Yami no Matsuei or Descendants of Darkness, guessed correctly by jjblue1]

11. Your dead sidhe prince changed forever my perception of what elves (and sidhe) are supposed to be. I never wrote fanfic about you, but there are two pastel chalk pictures and an original shortstory of mine, clearly being inspired by you.
[The Dreaming Tree by C. J. Cherryh, guessed correctly by elbales]


And? Any idea who they are? :)

Comments

[jjblue1.livejournal.com]

It's unsure if Seishiro went to live with his mother after he met her at 9. During the conversation they have in the drama cd he's in Junior High and it's said he's visiting her, apparently implying he didn't live with her.
According to Nokoru CLAMP Gakuen temperature is controlled by air conditioners only, not by the Campus magic which should be only working as seal to protect the Shinken. However I think you can stretch it and use it to keep the plants green as well.
Subaru also saw Seishiro's Shiki in TB but he might not have ever connected the Shiki he met inside Mizuki to Seishiro... and he might have forgot/be too out of it to remember Seishiro's Shiki fought with his grandmother's one...
Also it isn't sure if Subaru followed Seishiro's power when they first met. The translation said he felt being called, found a tree that harbored the grudges and the hatred of many. Later when Subaru's grandmother will reach him the sakura will disappear in a flutter of petals as Seishiro's illusions usually do. Anyway Subaru sensed a call but it's never said it was a call of power. It might be he sensed the hatred. As for from who the hatred came... that's unsaid. However since Seishiro had killed a girl and Seishiro kills who threat Japan's well being it might be that the apparently harmless little girl was a murderer like the girls in 'Call' and that the hatred was caused by her (I would assume Seishiro would shield from hatred from his victims because it can have negative consequences...) However you can assume he sensed the Sakurazukamori's power. I know I did in a fic.

On a sidenote: for the Subaru and Seishiro's Shikigami thing... it's not canonically stated however it might be that the birds Subaru and Seishiro create with Ofuda aren't Shiki in the real sense of the world.
I've been making researches about them... there are no clear info however the definition of Shikigami seems to fit more to the bird Subaru used in 'call' (and that, with the use of an Ofuda, divided into 3 birds) and Seishiro's hawk. 'Yami no Matsuei' calls the creatures made with Ofuda Tsukaima (=usable magic).
Shikigami should be more powerful than Tsukaima...
And no, this isn't an error you made... and not even a secure canon information... sadly I don't know enough about Onmyoudo to be sure of the overmentioned info...

According to the translation I found 'Nandaro' is the nickname CLAMP used among them for Seishiro's shiki not its name...
'"Place and date of birth of Sumeragi Subaru." He caught Subaru's wrist in a hard grip. "The real ones, not the fakes you gave me at Sunshine 60.' Actually Subaru only gave a fake birthplace. The use of plural should imply he gave both them fake... or it's my lack of English knowledge that's making me see a mistake where there's none? The birthdate was real... and according to Yuko (from xxx HoLic) giving it Subaru gave to Seishiro the right to control his life...
According to TB 1999 the movie Hokuto's spirit is still a ghost capable to possess other people... however I can't understand the Japanese dialogues so I don't know much about it and some do not consider TB 1999 as part of the TB/X continuity.
By the end of X Subaru's hair is almost the same lenght it was on TB... so they arent' that short anymore...

[jjblue1.livejournal.com]

I don't know if this is wanted but I'm not sure Nokoru's name can be shortened in ''koru'... I've read an article about how Japanese shortened names that seemed to imply that they cut the ending and not the beginning... however I know some rare case of names from which the beginning was cut... so, unless you already did it, I suggest to check this one with someone with Japanese knowledge...
Not really an error but I do wonder how Suoh discovered the Sakurazukamori chased his prey for a year but not who the prey was. The only ones who knew were Seishiro, Subaru, Subaru's grandmother and maybe someone in the Sumeragi's family. Somehow it seems difficult they mentioned it to the Takamura's family... Suoh was informed by Hinoto or someone whom, like her, can know things through dreams, magic and such?
Fancanon assumes that the Sakurazukamori's victims are buried under the tree, ergo Hokuto's body had never been found... however Subaru's grandmother received a call informing her of her demise. Unless it was Seishiro that likely means someone found secure proof she died. Plus in TB and X we never see Seishiro buring bodies but discharging them where they are carelessly. Ergo Hokuto shouldn't have been considered missing...
The final battle (or at least the battle presented in what will be Vol. 19) didn't take place on Tokyo Tower. To my shame I admit I hadn't managed to recognize the place however you can see Kamui looking at Tokyo Tower that looks quite distant from where he and Fuma are...

Just wondering... the two dragons are inspired by the X movie?

BTW, according to my researches it's Subaru's house is in 'Kinki-chiho - Kyoto-fu - Kyoto-shi - Ukyo-ku - Sagano'.
CLAMP Gakuen have a whole hospital placed near it's center... so I think it's more likely the university would have an infirmary.
CLAMP didn't state where Togakushi Jinja is... however when Yuto left it to go to Shinjuku he used the Yamanote-sen and called Kanoe from Ikebukuro-eki which I assume was the closest station to where he was. Yamanote-sen have no stations in Edogawa... and I think if he was to take another line he would have said...
I don't know if Fuma, being a minor, can be Kamui's guardian... I couldn't find any info about it, sorry...

And I would love if you were to friend me but I warn you... on my journal there's nothing too interesting and it's often written in poor English...
Can I friend you as well?
And my apologies for such a long reply...

[akk]

1. 'koru, was checked. It's an unusual & informal choice, but given name & nickname rules are somewhat flexible as long as the people in question are comfortable with it.

2. Suoh is kind of suspicious about Seishiro and since the Sakurazukamori is supposedly a fairytale, he keeps his ear close to the rumors & old-wives-talk.
ANd of course, are you sure he didn't know it was Subaru? ;)

3. Hokuto's disappearance. Yes. That is a troublesome aspect, I spotted myself - unfortunately, only after that part was written. I decided to live with the error in this regard.
And I never stated that there are bodies buried. Please! Crime Scene Investigations would have a field day then!

4. I didn't recognize the place in Vol. 19, either. I decided for a place that worked for the fic and didn't contradict the drawings that much.

5. No, the dragons per se are inspired by the manga & animation. That there are two is due to the nature of the Taiji symbol of the Dao. :)

6. TB German gives the Sumeragi Estate in Sagano, Kyoto. The rest was my choice of scenery.

7. I didn't find a hint of where Togakushi is. I needed a place far off, so I decided to put it in the East. Deduction of locations is always ... a guess if you can't read the street signs. :)
Did Yuto leave Togakushi or KAmui's flat? That's not identical.

8. Fuma as a minor. No.
But Kamui's papers are conencted with the shrine warden, Fuma's father. So far, no authority stumbled about it. ;)

Sorry for the elongated replies.
And again - thank you for easing my worries about a major goof-up. I think I did reasonably well within my limited choice of story source. :)

[jjblue1.livejournal.com]

1. ^_______^
I should have known you would have checked it!

2. LOL I don't know why but the idea that Subaru's the only one who thinks his feeling for Seishiro aren't noticed by other people amuse me!

3. True you didn't state it. I wrote this checking chap by chap if, maybe, I remembered wrong... but it seems I still shouldn't do work late in the night... sorry...

4. I've just got X 18.5
The pic is clearer than the scans so I'll try to use it to find some clues... however, after reading X should have 21 volumes I've been wondering if the place in which they currently are is truly the place for the last battle or they'll later move on Tokyo Tower and fight there too...
If only CLAMP would consider ending X...

6. the Italian version too. However I checked and the Sagano in Tokyo should be a neighborhood with many temples, as well as Rakushi-sha, the Fallen Persimmon Hut in the Ukyo Ward (or Ukyo-ku). I hadn't been able to find a Sagano ward... unless with Sagano-ku you mean something different from 'ward'...

7. In the manga Yuto and Sorata began fighting just out of Fuma's house. In the manga Kamui's flat is never mentioned/showed (before seeing the anime series I was wondering where the poor boy was sleeping). Kamui's old destroyed house was in the neighbourhood of Fuma's temple if I don't remember wrong.

8. And Fuma's so tall and serious looking people might mistake him for a 20 year old boy... so it fits!

Don't worry, I love long replies... and it was my fault for writing so much in the first place!
You did wonderfully well so don't worry!

[akk]

4. Yes, though on the other hand... we have a lot of fun playing with it as it is, neh?

6. But Subaru travels to Kyoto to meet his grandmother at the estate. So assuming the estate in Tokyo doesn't really make sense.

7. :) One of the parts where I always confuse manga and anime. *sigh*

8. *g*

*blush* thank you!

[jjblue1.livejournal.com]

4. True... and I do think that X popularity is also due to the fact it's unfinished... the lack of end keep fan thinking over which one it will be...

5. Ops, sorry, I typed Tokyo... I meant Kyoto... I keep messing up the two. It's a mistake I began doing in childhood when I noticed they were written with the same letters... The correct location for Sagano anyway should be
Kinki-chiho (Kinki region... also knon as Kansai region) - Kyoto-fu (Kyoto Prefecture) - Kyoto-shi (Kyoto City) - Ukyo-ku (Ukyo Ward) - Sagano
Wikipedia has no articles for it... it's just mentioned in the Ukyo-ku (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukyo-ku%2C_Kyoto) article.

7. Don't worry... I do confuse them often too... I'm always busy checking everything...

[akk]

5. Ukyo-ku is right. Sagano is part of that. I placed the estate in the right part of town. However, I admit that Japanese addresses are tough to deal with. I wrote Sagano-ku, though it probably is Sagano-cho or something. :)

7. Yes, but at some point I have to stop checking and write down my ideas or I never get the next chapter done.

[jjblue1.livejournal.com]

7. LOL True.

[akk]

1. Seishiro clearly lives with her just before he kills her as shown in X-manga. The rest is interpretation.

2. the Sakurazukamori kills to protect Japan - or to protect himself if he has been spotted on a job. If the tree is then participating or utensil or whatever is up for imaginative graps. :)

3.temperature control of a large area will affect planted greenery there. Look at small parks enclosed in large cities. They often have leaves and bloom weeks before the plants in the countryside. That's a natural effect actually.

4. "the fakes you gave me" - it's just casual - as in informal - talk. I didn't mean to imply that both are wrong. :)

5. Nandaro is a nickname, right. And I found it cute. There's no name stated for it anywhere as far as I know.

6. Hair length. Ok, you caught me. But he still could use a good hairstylist... ;)

[jjblue1.livejournal.com]

1. I don't know if Seishiro was living with her in the manga or just visiting her again for a couple of days... if you ask me he, at least lived with her the last year before her death... because it just would match the year he spent with Subaru his potential heir.

2. yep but it seems he has to kill to feed the tree as well... because the tree seems to need to be feed. So, if there are no people threatening Japan or spotting him he would have to kill someone, some minor criminal maybe, like the one the tree murdered. (of course it might be the tree knew that guy would be troublesome... and I always wonder if he tried to 'eat' Subaru only because he wanted to push Seishiro at action or because Subaru looked tasty...)

5. Not in the canon we can get. If I've got it right CLAMP said its name in the tale in Shoten... but I can't read it.
On a sidenote: I use nandarou as well despite being just a nickname... *shame on me*

[akk]

1. yes. we have some evidence - and as usual nothing conclusive. Your guess is as good as mine I think. I like yours because of its symmetry with the bet, I prefer mine because of some plot event to come. :)

2. depends on how long the Tree can really forgo sustenance, and when it's just obnoxiously getting on its guardian's nerves. ;)
I think a serial rapist might not be a minor criminal. Also, the terminus "threatening Japan" does include future deeds - think of the reasoning at the MS insitute in TB. "In a few years, you will..."
So there is a preemptive element in it, too. Ever wondered how that agrees with the law of causality? ;)

5. The Shotens are funny, but hardly X or TB canon. They are Clamp's first playing with figures, as far as I know.

[jjblue1.livejournal.com]

1. teaser! admit it, you want me to die of curiosity!

2. A minor criminal in general terms no. But it's a criminal that generally doesn't get sentenced to death (too bad...) and yes, I've wondered if the tree choice was based on how that criminal would affect future events.

5. yep, they are... and i can't jusdge how much canon there's in them until someone will be so kind to translate them...
Most of their canon had been kept but... shadowed... for example the previous Rijichou had been created by an ex-CLAMP member... CLAMP kept it but never showed her face.
Tomoe is a character from Hagunsei Senki. in it she's not Yuto's real sister but they call each other brother and sister (how would I love to get my hands on Hagunsei Senki...).
Anyway all this to say that... with CLAMP you can never know! ^_-

[akk]

1. No, of course not. You are one of my most consistent reviewers. I'd hate to lose you!

2. :)=

3. Hagunsei Senki?

[jjblue1.livejournal.com]

*blush*

An early story by CLAMP based on an ancient tale (Hakken Den if I'm not wrong) that involved Yuto Suoh and Nagisa and a certain Shiro Fuyukaze (however it's rumoured the character to write this Shiro's surname were different from the ones used for Kamui... thought I know that Japanese can ask for the kanji in their name to be changed... so he might be Kamui's misterious father only he's rather tall and Kamui instead... but maybe Kamui hadn't hit his grow spur yet... [have bizzarre vision of a Kamui who had grown taller than Fuma...]). Sadly they wrote only 4 chapters then decided to quit it because, in their opinion, someone else was writing a better interpretation of that ancient tale.
To make matter even more complicate Leeza Sei was the main artist for it, helped by Tamayo and Mokona so I fear the rights for it are... split and that's why there's almost no material for it. Now only a pic In CLAMP North side remain (also another pic is in CLAMP platinum in the page showing the articles Newtype made for CLAMP).
You can find some info here (http://membres.lycos.fr/x1999/clampgakuen/hagun.htm).
Sadly I don't know how much of Hagunsei Senki can still be considered canon and how much is not.
However in it Yuto is a CLAMP university student and the reincarnation of an Hakkenshi like Suoh (who's an elementary student) while Nagisa is the reincarnation of their enemy...
I do wonder if what happened in Hangusei Senki was supposed to be what made yuto so fatalistic...

[akk]

I think it helps to actually sort Clamp's work into various fandoms (and therefore canons). They are clearly not all in one world, even if Clamp's style helps us to do crossovers fluently.
I know the Hakkenden anime, though not that well. It didn't really grab me as a tale.

Leeza... *Sigh*. I wish she'd finish Combination! (and she has the rights to that one).

Or maybe Yuto is a fatalistic trout? *g*

[jjblue1.livejournal.com]

I think CLAMP would like to tie them all together. They also used Tsubasa to connect RG Veda with Yuko's world and they implied vaguely Yuko might know Subaru the Onmyouji (thought they were careful to not say his name or if he's our Subaru).
Hakkeden is an ancient 'Samurai Novel' in 108 chapters.
Here (http://www.mars.dti.ne.jp/~opaku/) more info.
Leeza is just cruel! But I'll content myself if they would consider printing vol 6 in Italy. Why only vol 1-5?
It might be... but it still make me wonder what happened to him...

[akk]

Clamp might tie them all together, but they don't work them into one coherent univsere. They are working with a multiverse (at best) which is sometimes fun and more often than not annoying at best.
Besides, let's not start about the issues you get with causality in that regard.
I know the story of Hakkenden. I just didn't care much about it.
Wish I could get my hands on vol.6 somehow. In German there's also only vol. 1 - 5. No idea if the story was ever continued. *sigh*

What happened to him? He's a Clamp character in pastel colored suits. That should make any man fatalistic! *eg*

[jjblue1.livejournal.com]

Sometimes I think CLAMP are playing with (torturing) the fans....

*sighs* I only know about vol. 6... so I've no idea if the story continued further either...

ROTFL Poor Yuto...