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rheasilvias journal...
Sum up your former/current fandoms in a few sentences, as if they were human beings/very convincing sockpuppets on your flist. Ask your friends to guess which fandoms you're talking about!
May I introduce the following animes, books, and mangas:
1. There were countless references, endless rides, comical elements and serious issues. Sometimes brilliant, sometimes on the edge of pain. Your violet sparkles, golden light, and green eyes caught me.
[Adventures of the Galaxy Rangers, guessed correctly byelbales]
2. Nobody believed in you. There were four attempts before the fifth turned out working, and even that was a haphazard chaos, few people put faith in. Yet it worked out, in the past and the future and even in the darkness of a new middle ages.
[Babylon-5, not guessed]
3. Spaceships on the surface, a war against the gods on a planet not fully terraformed yet. You are a beautifully drawn movie, but still I always believed your story to be more complicated than could be told in your roughly two hours.
[Big Wars, not guessed]
4. When I discovered that you are based on novels written in the 1940s I was thrilled. But before I even read them, I played in my mind with your drop-formed ship.
[Captain Future by Edmond Hamilton, not guessed]
5. I just discovered you, after I fell in love with your arch enemy a few weeks ago. Your name means nothing, but you are anything but. In fact, you kind of remind me of the hero in 4. :)
[Cosmowarrior Zero by Leiji Matsumoto, not guessed]
6. You are feckless and powerful, strong and confused; a knight in shining armor, who scrapes his knee on the parapet of a crumbling wooden fortress with an owl to lead him through the shadows into the arms of one soon to be king.
[Fortress in the Eye of Time by C. J. Cherryh, guessed correctly byelbales]
7. You are tough, smart, and deadly - and despite you telling your own tale, I'm sticking around waiting eagerly for the next natural death.
[John Rain the assassin created by Barry Eisler, not guessed]
8. Kill the frogs! And then fall back to earth, Commander! 264 is waiting for your astrogator.
[Raumpatrouille, guessed correctly byrheasilvia]
9. You leave none of your characters truly unharmed, though your creators proclaimed never to do a resurrection, at least one of your (minor) characters came back from destruction.
[X, guessed correctly bysolo____]
10. You carry the X and the pentagram. Sakura petals flutter like snow flakes through your blood tinted pictures. Your men are dead, guilt-ridden, powerful, mysterious and/or perverted.
[Yami no Matsuei or Descendants of Darkness, guessed correctly byjjblue1]
11. Your dead sidhe prince changed forever my perception of what elves (and sidhe) are supposed to be. I never wrote fanfic about you, but there are two pastel chalk pictures and an original shortstory of mine, clearly being inspired by you.
[The Dreaming Tree by C. J. Cherryh, guessed correctly byelbales]
And? Any idea who they are? :)
rheasilvias journal...Sum up your former/current fandoms in a few sentences, as if they were human beings/very convincing sockpuppets on your flist. Ask your friends to guess which fandoms you're talking about!
May I introduce the following animes, books, and mangas:
1. There were countless references, endless rides, comical elements and serious issues. Sometimes brilliant, sometimes on the edge of pain. Your violet sparkles, golden light, and green eyes caught me.
[Adventures of the Galaxy Rangers, guessed correctly by
elbales]2. Nobody believed in you. There were four attempts before the fifth turned out working, and even that was a haphazard chaos, few people put faith in. Yet it worked out, in the past and the future and even in the darkness of a new middle ages.
[Babylon-5, not guessed]
3. Spaceships on the surface, a war against the gods on a planet not fully terraformed yet. You are a beautifully drawn movie, but still I always believed your story to be more complicated than could be told in your roughly two hours.
[Big Wars, not guessed]
4. When I discovered that you are based on novels written in the 1940s I was thrilled. But before I even read them, I played in my mind with your drop-formed ship.
[Captain Future by Edmond Hamilton, not guessed]
5. I just discovered you, after I fell in love with your arch enemy a few weeks ago. Your name means nothing, but you are anything but. In fact, you kind of remind me of the hero in 4. :)
[Cosmowarrior Zero by Leiji Matsumoto, not guessed]
6. You are feckless and powerful, strong and confused; a knight in shining armor, who scrapes his knee on the parapet of a crumbling wooden fortress with an owl to lead him through the shadows into the arms of one soon to be king.
[Fortress in the Eye of Time by C. J. Cherryh, guessed correctly by
elbales]7. You are tough, smart, and deadly - and despite you telling your own tale, I'm sticking around waiting eagerly for the next natural death.
[John Rain the assassin created by Barry Eisler, not guessed]
8. Kill the frogs! And then fall back to earth, Commander! 264 is waiting for your astrogator.
[Raumpatrouille, guessed correctly by
rheasilvia]9. You leave none of your characters truly unharmed, though your creators proclaimed never to do a resurrection, at least one of your (minor) characters came back from destruction.
[X, guessed correctly by
solo____]10. You carry the X and the pentagram. Sakura petals flutter like snow flakes through your blood tinted pictures. Your men are dead, guilt-ridden, powerful, mysterious and/or perverted.
[Yami no Matsuei or Descendants of Darkness, guessed correctly by
jjblue1]11. Your dead sidhe prince changed forever my perception of what elves (and sidhe) are supposed to be. I never wrote fanfic about you, but there are two pastel chalk pictures and an original shortstory of mine, clearly being inspired by you.
[The Dreaming Tree by C. J. Cherryh, guessed correctly by
elbales]And? Any idea who they are? :)
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Date: 2006-12-02 14:00 (UTC)From:I gave notes at the very first parts of 36° where I deviate from stated canon, as in "a vocal tree", etc.
I'd be hard pressed to label fancanon, because for that I'd have to read a majority of TBX fanfic, which I didn't. There are a few recommended works I thoroughly enjoy - mostly for their style and complexity. So the "fancanon" in my fics is mostly solely my interpretation. To use the Tree-example again: I needed a direct link into the 6th century for 36° to work as a whole. Perv-Tree[tm] then kind of "happened". ;)
I try hard to stick to canon whenever possible within the fic.
However, I can only refer to canon available to me at the time of making the concept / writing the fic, not later. I learned of TB 1999 not before 36° was 2/3 done, for example.
So I state the sources at the beginning and use what can be found in them. As it is: that are TB, X manga (with a few deviations regarding X animation & movie), CCD and Man of Many Faces books. Aside from that (interviews, TB1999 etc) - there might be inspiration, but not story source.
For me as author that's a fair trade. The readers know what I play with and I have a secure foundation for my story available.
I'll reply to the more specific things at the respective comments.
And yes, I'd still like to friend you. :)
And of course you can friend me in return!
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Date: 2006-12-02 20:05 (UTC)From:I'm sorry for calling fancanon your interpretation.
It's just it match with fancanon... which after all was born from some fans' interpretation.
I'm happy to hear you didn't base your fic on fancanon. If there's a thing I admire in your work and that always leave me impressed is the deep researches you made for this fic.
*sighs* I know the drama of not having the chance to use all the sources of info because... some are just too hard to get for not-Japanese speakers who doesn't even live in Japan (I'd love to know what was the first TB story's plot or what the dialogue in the movie or in the Hokuto drama cd, or in the altered part of the other drama cd were... or maybe read the YnM books...).
As I told you the canon imprecisions you made aren't a big deal. Most people wouldn't even notice them.
^____^
Thank you for allowing me to friend you!
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Date: 2006-12-02 20:54 (UTC)From:I think it asks a bit much of an author to demand him or her to label fanons (fancanon) in addition to deliberate canon deviations. Fanons evolve together with a fandom and they even change over time.
If people argue with me over fanons, I demand them to state the place in the listed source that explicitly says it's their way not mine. If there is space for interpretation, they're lost. Simple.
If they turn aggressive, well... I do write aggressive characters rather well. ;)
Actually, there've been comparatively few such arguments over 36° (and FM) so far - which surprised me, because I basically challenge fundamental canon in 36° almost solely based on the manga's art - which is why 36° is not labelled AU.
I wholeheartedly expected people to leap at my throat for it. ;)
Though I admit, with FM I'm more concerned about keeping it consistent with 36° than with the manga. From a timeline, the manga (and anime, etc.) ended with 36° chapter 10. Everything that happens later is a new game.
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Date: 2006-12-02 21:36 (UTC)From:Even if sometimes I see people doing the most absurd things...
There's a community that use a program to steal and post random icons...
There's a girl who declared she purposely wrote flames to good fics' authors because she was jealous of them.
There's who purposely tries to get into arguments in chats...
There's who list tons of random people in their friend list then delete them in a couple of hours.
Really, Yuko's right. Humans are the strangest creatures.
Because you said Seishiro didn't die?
Actually when I read he died I thought/hoped that he hadn't and that it had been all a trick. I never explored this point because... well, even if it might have been a trick I was sure it was CLAMP's purpose to kill him. It just... close the circle well. Which is too bad.
Or are you referring over the fact that 1999 shouldn't be the date for the end of the world?
I guess 1999 have also a certain 'end of the world' feeling because upside down it's 6661 and if you skip 1 666 is the number of the devil...
I think you're right at being more concerned about keeping FM consistent with 36° than with the manga.
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Date: 2006-12-02 21:55 (UTC)From:Well-closed circle is the most often used argument in favor of his death that showed up so far in the discussions sparked by my fic. I admit that's true. On the other hand, despite all else, 36° is not only based on TBX universe but - as best as I can - on reality (regarding logic, historical events, physical laws, etc.) and in the real world, not every circle gets closed just because it would perfect the symmetry.
Which is why I can play on and others can choose differently.
Actually, I challenged a lot of the general concepts of X in 36°. Seishiro's death at Rainbow Bridge, the end of the world in 1999, the true meaning of kamui and why seven seals (angels) when most of them are just running around as decoration, etc. It was fun - like saying with a big smirk: "see? you got it all wrong!" - that my fic was then liked and enjoyed was really a wonderful surprise. :)
But Numerology - like 666 - is also part of the superstitions. *g*
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Date: 2006-12-02 22:50 (UTC)From:According to an interview what happened to Subaru should help Kamui to chose. I'm sure Kamui could do his choice even if Seishiro only pretended to die but... well, I fear CLAMp have done with Seishiro.
My idea is that the point of the bet was for only one of them to survive, Seishiro if Subaru were to lose, Subaru, if Seishiro were to lose because Seishiro expected to be killed by the one he loved.
Ergo Seishiro did the bet in order to find out if Subaru could be his killer.
Now... I'd love to think he came back to his senses, realized Setsuka wasn't a Yumemi and there's no reason to die when he could live happily with Subaru... but I guess this wouldn't fit with CLAMP idea of 'romantic'...
That's how far I go using logic.
Tecnically however Seishiro might have survived (because he decided to not die or by a lucky shot) and, sometimes, I enjoy myself trying to make up ways in which he might have saved himself.
After all there's no corpse and I really don't get how Kamui found only Seishiro's eye. It's not as eyes normally wander out of corpses...
Actually I liked your explanation of why the guys were seven. Almost no one cared to develop that part and you did it well and realistically. It's one of the things I like the most. The teams as CLAMP present them are apparently so... picked up randomly... Sorata tried to came up with the teory they were all in the 'guys from some temple/religion club' but then Karen and Seiichiro are a bit off of it... (even if Seiichiro's clan works for Ise Daijingu...).
The ages... are bizzarre. A bunch of teens, two adults and poor Subaru all alone in the middle of the two teams...
The angels... they're even more random: 2 teens (mn... not too sure if satsuki is still a teen, she's a student but she might be an university one...), 5 adults and Kakyou (who might be like Hinoto and look much younger than he is...)
They have nothing in common (and please tell me what is Kusanagi doing among them?) except for the fact that 6 seem to not care about humanity's destiny...
Actually superstition should have a logic basic that went distorted and forgotten along the way so there could be a logical reason about why 666 is considered a very bad number... and why 1999 would have been a perfect time to end the world... but I've to admit I don't know it...
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Date: 2006-12-02 22:58 (UTC)From:At least, they don't wander off in a usable condition!
Somehow, Kusanagi seemed to be in the wrong group. *g*
Well, I don't want to argue about superstitions, numerology and some such. I fear being a physicist makes me rather short tempered when it comes to those. As I said above: if there is a logical reason (provable, please) for the statement: put it up for the task. If there isn't it's just an unvalidated assumption.
Of course, assumptions can be fun to be played with in stories. ;)
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Date: 2006-12-02 23:36 (UTC)From:LOL True!
He and Subaru should have switched places in the early beginning. Okay, so it wouldn't have fit with your reasoning for why they were in the team but I'm sure Subaru and Seishiro wouldn't have really mind...
Mn... you're asking the wrong person... I'm charmed by the stories behind superstitions, magic, horoscopes and such but I don't trust them at all...
If there were a logical reason for it (and, mind you I'm saying 'if') it had likely been distorted or based on a false belief.
Superstition says spilling salt is bad luck. The belief has birth by the fact that salt anciently was very expensive so it was rather misfortunate to spill it. Actually however...
Friday is considered a bad day because Jesus died in friday. However I don't think this is enough to label all the fridays as bad days... (EHY, I'M BORN ON FRIDAY!)
What I meant to say in my previous reply is that there could have been something that made 666 look like a bad number... but not an actually scientific fact.
And that I do wonder if CLAMP picked up the date for something more than 'people think the world will end'...
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Date: 2006-12-03 11:11 (UTC)From:Meeting of the Dragons of Earth:
"Kamui": "Regarding the general work conduct of certain dragons..."
somebody in the back rows: "What work?"
About the salt:
It's not a logical reason, it's a historical reason. Back at the time when salt was expensive, it was logical (to some extend) to consider it bad luck (as in loss of wealth) to spill salt. Nowadays, however, with salt being available at reasonable prices, it's not logical to consider spilling salt a misfortune. Regarding iced streets and the risk of a passers-by slipping and sueing you for it, it's actually sometimes a misfortune *not* to spill salt nowadays. ;)
But I think it's a matter of definition. Logic in the common sense has a broader meaning than in the scientific community. I admit, I tend to use the narrower definition. Sorry. :)
Actually, let's not start on calendars, dates, and some such. There are more errors and reschedules in our time measurement in that regard than petals on the Sakura!
Oh, people came up with a lot of reasons why to panic in 1999. Unfortunately, 1.1.2000 disqualified them to some extend. ;)
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Date: 2006-12-03 13:02 (UTC)From:It's okay.
Calendars are filled with errors. If the world really had to end at the end of the 1999 year after Jesus' birth it would have surely not been in the day our calendars signed.
Someone really panicked?
My only concern was the millenium bug and luckily it didn't give me problems at all...
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Date: 2006-12-03 13:12 (UTC)From:...and no one shows up. Kinda depressing. Want to go for an ice cream instead? *G*
Most likely not even the year. ;)
No, I don't know of any real panics. Just a lot prognosted ones that didn't happen. The millenium bug... well, thanks to some meat cans in the US being labelled as out of date on the day of their production in 1982, people had enough time to prepare for it. :)
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Date: 2006-12-03 17:58 (UTC)From:Maybe if Subaru and Seishiro had been in team together RB wouldn't have happened, Subaru would have gone with Fuma out of duty and maybe Seishiro would have followed... so 3 angels instead of two...
Or maybe Seishiro would have persuaded Subaru to watch the final battle on tv...
With him you never know...
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Date: 2006-12-02 20:57 (UTC)From:It happened in 36° with the scenes in chapter 19 - as far as I could decipher them from the low-contrast scans I could find.
I really believe it's a matter of fairness - for the readers _and_ for the authors. After all, we write fanfic just to have fun, right? :D
and thank you for allowing me to friend you, too. :)
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Date: 2006-12-02 21:39 (UTC)From:^_________^