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Open letter to fashion labels - more specifically: jeans labels.
Dear fashion label designers,
I'm a German woman. I am slightly above 1.80 m tall and I weigh less than 80 kg. No, I am not a tomboy. No I don't own a rack that would shield you from the rain, either. Allow me to say it as simple as possible: I am tall, not fat!
It certainly doesn't help to sell your jeans pants to me when I'm forced to shop in the men's department, because normal women sizes end 15 cm before my legs end, and tall women sizes expect me to -at least- have the arse of a Clydesdale horse on McDoof diet! Because of that, all my previous jeans pants come in black, dark blue, and middle blue and look bland. Because they are bland. BLAND. BORING. And expensive. Considering their appeal, I seriously wonder why people pay for the minuscule - and usually ugly - logo stitched to a place where the belt luckily covers it anyway. After all, without a belt it's virtually impossible to wear even that stuff of yours.
By now, you might have noticed that I might not have had a good shopping experience at your stores today. You are so right.
It certainly didn't help that you - for what reason ever - decided to just a teensy-weensy bit change your cuts for the Spring collection, resulting in even the above listed boring bland pants to
a) cut into my waist (no, I did not gain weight) and b) leave enough space in the back for me to consider renting it off per square meter, leaving me with the unattractive option of trying on every single one of the boring bland black, dark blue or middle blue pants you actually come up with in my size.
In this respect: it would be nice if waist width 32 in one pant would equally be waist width 32 in the next (and not equal a waist width 35), because that meant I not only had to try on five pants (more you don't produce in my length), but actually about 18 (3 - 4 of each length with different waist width - no, I didn't shrink and expand between changing pants!) I assure you, your products do not look better if you apply the sizes using a roulette game.
For some reason you no longer sew jeans (or canvas pants) with waist bands that don't cut into my hip bones, but everybody of you managed nicely to create this effect of deep folds where my legs meet my body, resulting in the effect that it looks as if an industrial hammer had been used to attach said legs to my body, rest assured, whatever your fashion designers tell you: that doesn't look good (cool, great, interesting, sexy, bearable...). For fairness I'd like to add that there was actually one pant who did not show that fold; instead it was made of a cloth so hard it forced the folds into my body instead, creating a feeling that I'd like to compare with the 19th century corsages. Only that I have a figure for which I don't need one and I am not inclined to suffer from one, just because you are incompetent in your job - which is to sew pants that fit! Your clients! And not some wax doll who stood too close to the stove.
Allow me to assure you that employing a sales person who tells me that I couldn't expect to find light pants not showing such folds on my figure doesn't improve my shopping experience! I had such pants in the past. They still fit. Even the one I seldom wear because white and experimental labs don't go well together (btw. that's a 32/36 fyi). So somehow you could sew such pants just a year ago. Why not any more? Is it because you needed more space to which to attach your hyper expensive labels? Or is it because it's cool to either be mutilated by your pants or look like stumpy on growth hormones, while paying over 100€ for them?
Allow me to inform you of something:
People wear blazers, which hang over the waist bands of the pants and cover your label. And all people then see is whether or not the garment fits and the one wearing it makes a good impression (or looks like Goofy on steroids). You might argue that people's figures changed in the last year(s) and just mine didn't and you have to work for the masses (allow me to laugh about that, considering your pricing), but...
...why could I then walk into a department store and buy four light no name pants in my size, width, length without any hassle, being served by a nice person, who actually found that silver grey color for me I only dreamed about in your expensive shop, where your salesperson told me "colors like that weren't for people like me"?
Allow me to tell you that I prefer to get two label-less pants that fits me over one labeled pant that fits not.
Sincerely, AKK
Dear fashion label designers,
I'm a German woman. I am slightly above 1.80 m tall and I weigh less than 80 kg. No, I am not a tomboy. No I don't own a rack that would shield you from the rain, either. Allow me to say it as simple as possible: I am tall, not fat!
It certainly doesn't help to sell your jeans pants to me when I'm forced to shop in the men's department, because normal women sizes end 15 cm before my legs end, and tall women sizes expect me to -at least- have the arse of a Clydesdale horse on McDoof diet! Because of that, all my previous jeans pants come in black, dark blue, and middle blue and look bland. Because they are bland. BLAND. BORING. And expensive. Considering their appeal, I seriously wonder why people pay for the minuscule - and usually ugly - logo stitched to a place where the belt luckily covers it anyway. After all, without a belt it's virtually impossible to wear even that stuff of yours.
By now, you might have noticed that I might not have had a good shopping experience at your stores today. You are so right.
It certainly didn't help that you - for what reason ever - decided to just a teensy-weensy bit change your cuts for the Spring collection, resulting in even the above listed boring bland pants to
a) cut into my waist (no, I did not gain weight) and b) leave enough space in the back for me to consider renting it off per square meter, leaving me with the unattractive option of trying on every single one of the boring bland black, dark blue or middle blue pants you actually come up with in my size.
In this respect: it would be nice if waist width 32 in one pant would equally be waist width 32 in the next (and not equal a waist width 35), because that meant I not only had to try on five pants (more you don't produce in my length), but actually about 18 (3 - 4 of each length with different waist width - no, I didn't shrink and expand between changing pants!) I assure you, your products do not look better if you apply the sizes using a roulette game.
For some reason you no longer sew jeans (or canvas pants) with waist bands that don't cut into my hip bones, but everybody of you managed nicely to create this effect of deep folds where my legs meet my body, resulting in the effect that it looks as if an industrial hammer had been used to attach said legs to my body, rest assured, whatever your fashion designers tell you: that doesn't look good (cool, great, interesting, sexy, bearable...). For fairness I'd like to add that there was actually one pant who did not show that fold; instead it was made of a cloth so hard it forced the folds into my body instead, creating a feeling that I'd like to compare with the 19th century corsages. Only that I have a figure for which I don't need one and I am not inclined to suffer from one, just because you are incompetent in your job - which is to sew pants that fit! Your clients! And not some wax doll who stood too close to the stove.
Allow me to assure you that employing a sales person who tells me that I couldn't expect to find light pants not showing such folds on my figure doesn't improve my shopping experience! I had such pants in the past. They still fit. Even the one I seldom wear because white and experimental labs don't go well together (btw. that's a 32/36 fyi). So somehow you could sew such pants just a year ago. Why not any more? Is it because you needed more space to which to attach your hyper expensive labels? Or is it because it's cool to either be mutilated by your pants or look like stumpy on growth hormones, while paying over 100€ for them?
Allow me to inform you of something:
People wear blazers, which hang over the waist bands of the pants and cover your label. And all people then see is whether or not the garment fits and the one wearing it makes a good impression (or looks like Goofy on steroids). You might argue that people's figures changed in the last year(s) and just mine didn't and you have to work for the masses (allow me to laugh about that, considering your pricing), but...
...why could I then walk into a department store and buy four light no name pants in my size, width, length without any hassle, being served by a nice person, who actually found that silver grey color for me I only dreamed about in your expensive shop, where your salesperson told me "colors like that weren't for people like me"?
Allow me to tell you that I prefer to get two label-less pants that fits me over one labeled pant that fits not.
Sincerely, AKK
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Date: 2008-02-23 04:50 (UTC)From:Whoever does the sizing at the fashion labels needs to get permanently sewn into the worst-fitting stiff pair of jeans available.
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Date: 2008-02-23 19:22 (UTC)From:the bigger the name, the uglier the label, the cheaper the cloth and inferior the workmanship and the fitting. Since they have their name to sell their rubbish, they need not bother with it actually being wearable. Btw. I even tried Joop (the one pair of jeans where I wished beforehand it wouldn't fit, because the price was somewhere near 400€; a price I would hesitate to pay for a complete suit including gold cuff links!) and it fit to a T: the worst fit, the scratchiest cloth (it wasn't the hardest cloth, but then that corsage was hard to top; I guess somebody tried to imitate Fishbone, forgetting that it's nowadays a brand name and not the material...)
Whereas the no name (or relatively unknown name) companies have to come up with other arguments for people to buy their products, like fine cloth, size, and fitting. Otherwise, people would just buy a different no name pant that fits them. But once their name gets known, they need not bother any more (see above).
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Date: 2008-02-23 06:41 (UTC)From:no subject
Date: 2008-02-23 19:27 (UTC)From:But what send me over the edge was the arrogant salesperson "your body doesn't fit our designs, so it's your fault" and the fact that they expected me to pay at least 80€ (that's 100+US$!) for a pair of jeans that neither fit exceptionally well nor was acceptably comfortable. If I am to cough up big bucks, I expect something more than a fancy label that's hidden by the belt necessary to wear the rubbish.
Maybe those guys should come up honest and just sell their labels for 100€ each (together with a tube of glue), since they don't bother with the pants to which they attach it, anyway.
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Date: 2008-02-24 03:03 (UTC)From:Now that's just flat out bad customer service. They can't do anything about the fit issues at the store, but being rude to you and blaming YOU for the fit issues is just unacceptable. I'd have been tempted to go to the manager if they'd acted like that to me.
Heh. If they thought they could get away with it, I'm sure they would.
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Date: 2008-02-24 07:32 (UTC)From:Heh, I think that won't take much longer. Did you spot the official fashion collections this year? If they reduce any more fabric, that's just labels taped to the critical decency spots. ;)
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Date: 2008-02-24 07:33 (UTC)From:LOL!
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Date: 2008-02-23 17:10 (UTC)From:no subject
Date: 2008-02-23 19:13 (UTC)From:(btw. the cloth quality and workmanship is usually superior of what you get in women's shops. I can judge. I need to wear blazers frequently. Its easy to get all sweat-through in women blazers (and the cloth starts to stink immediately), the men's blazers stay cooler on you even in hot weather and bear with sweat much longer before they start to smell (really useful in Summer, I tell you! Even at 28C, you can make it through the day in one)).
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Date: 2008-02-23 21:42 (UTC)From:(and THAT's more than interesting. I've never heard about it, but it sure is useful piece of information. Thanks :)
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Date: 2008-02-24 07:41 (UTC)From:For a price tag: I have a men's blazer, navy with fine needle stripes in irregular distances, three buttons, silver lining (goes well with the stripes and is the fabric they also use in sports clothes to avoid transpiration scents), inside pocket, zipped chest pocket, two normal pockets (all also lined) for 120 €. I saw something of similar quality for women only at price tags coming above 250 € (and that was a size where the sleeves would have ended a few inches below my elbows; I don't know what it would have cost at my size (if it were available, that is), when they'd need more cloth to accommodate the length).